The Buck Starts (and Stops) Here

This is one of my pet peeves I know but it must effect some other people out there ??

I loaded up Netbeans 4.1 today in the (forlorn) hope that it would finally have extssh support out of the box for cvs , but no despite all the talk about cvs among other features you still have to fiddle around outside netbeans (and install cygwin if you're using windows) if you don't want to use pserver. Eclipse has had extssh support from the word go so I fail to see why it isn't deemed necessary for netbeans , one of the cool features about eclipse is that you can download it install and connect to your cvs repository and get coding in a matter of minutes , with netbeans you won't be talking to the outside world in a hurry!

It's a shame I have watched both Eclipse and NetBeans ebb and flow over the years and currently both have their plus points ;

Eclipse + : Great cvs support , great look and feel on linux or Windows, good refactoring & junit integration, swt shows what java could have become if the awt/swing disasters hadn't happened.

Eclipse - : Performance can be atrocious periodic 'hangs' though improved on the 3.x versions - it's WebSphere cousins are still stuck at 2.x

NetBeans + : State of the art J2Me support , out of the box JSP/Servlets/JavaServer faces support, A lot of improvements and J2Se 5.0 support, quirky project mounting gone now ,Look and feel has improved the icons were always neat, but swing look has gone now (good riddance).

NetBeans -: No ssh cvs support , project explorer still quirky , and did I mention no ssh cvs support!!

If the above seems a little harsh on Netbeans don't get me wrong I think it has it uses the J2Me support and JSP stuff etc are good and I will certainly be using those features it's just a pity I'll have to export code back to eclipse to get it into cvs though.

I use Eclipse and Visual Studio 2003 on a daily basis so I'm glad to say that the progress of these two ide's (Eclipse & NetBeans) will benefit Visual Studio users too as a great many of the cooler features of these two are in Visual Studio 2005 , addressing the deficiencies of VS2003 which whilst fast, light on memory and very usable didn't really advance the ide much beyond the VB5/6 level and that was a long time ago!